Forums >> Web-Comics >> Doing your ComicNation laundry

Doing your ComicNation laundry

2 


Zeevico
Default-avatar
59 posts
Sometimes,I read comics for suspect reasons. Sometimes, the comics I subscribe to cease to update. And today, I cleaned out half of my list. Boom. Gone. What's left? A few comics on hiatus. Most of the comics I like. And a few I'm reading for suspect reasons [Sidekick Girl, I'm looking at you. With a harsh, harsh glare and a semi-reflexive flicker of the cursor towards the cancel button].

Also, I must admit that I went from being a hardcore Sluggy Freelance fan for about 6 or so years to having it drop off my list entirely a couple months ago. Don't get me wrong--the artist is great. But he's bundled up what should be 2 comics into one. He can write drama and bizarre science fiction/fantasy. On the other hand he can write comedy. And really the fact that he could write both in one comic for so long (and do it well) shows how good he can be. But he's introduced so many sideplots, and tried his hand at so many things, that Sluggy feels like it has no foundation any more. It feels flimsy and pointless. It has gone nowhere for the past few years. In many characters have not developed at all for years. Anyway...

What have you cleaned out recently?
What have you added recently? Why?
What do you love?
M_Northstar
Grace_chibi_reading
461 posts
Zeevico wrote:
Also, I must admit that I went from being a hardcore Sluggy Freelance fan for about 6 or so years to having it drop off my list entirely a couple months ago. Don't get me wrong--the artist is great. But he's bundled up what should be 2 comics into one. He can write drama and bizarre science fiction/fantasy. On the other hand he can write comedy. And really the fact that he could write both in one comic for so long (and do it well) shows how good he can be.


Or it could just be that SF has survived its time. We'd like to think the things we love will go on forever, but most phenomena, and certainly most people, have usually only a limited time in which to shine. It's just the impermanence of life, I'm afraid. I feel the same way about Schlock Mercenary; it's gone from being creative and funny, to just being a kind of monster-of-the-week comic where the mercenaries get their laughs by killing stupid and under prepared local yokels.


Zeevico wrote:
What have you cleaned out recently?
What have you added recently? Why?
What do you love?


Well, I also recently cancelled several of my subscriptions. Zap!, Vampirates, The Adventures of Dr. McNinja, etc. It had gone so long with some of them, that I actually got a sinking feeling from seeing that green light next to their names, and that's past time to say good bye.

In my newfound free time, I've been actively searching for new comics to read, and have found several that I'm very excited about: Skewed Paradise, A; B.I.T.C.H.; DreamCatcher; Cwen's Quest (Via the Duck); Sticky Floors; Faradon; Fight 2; Finder's Keepers; Flaky Pastry; Initial Fantasy; Lint; Magician's Quest; Ménage à 3; Millennium; [Error: Comic #2346 not found!]; Seekers; Tales of Thistledown; Within Shadows; and White Noise (by Damnspider), to just name a few of the most recent additions. In fact if you look at the number of these comics in the database (you can just examine the text of this post by quoting it), you'll see how many of them I added to the db in rather quick succession (look at the numbers around 2350).
Zeevico
Default-avatar
59 posts
I feel the same way about Schlock Mercenary; it's gone from being creative and funny, to just being a kind of monster-of-the-week comic where the mercenaries get their laughs by killing stupid and under prepared local yokels.

I think it's partly because the artists are full-timers. If they kill their babies and start something new, they'll be risking a massive loss of income. In a sense it stifles the creative impulse by railroading them into writing the one comic. I feel the same way about Bruno the Bandit as well.
Cthulhu-Maccabi
David
167 posts
I can't say I agree on Schlock Mercenary, but I do get kinda the same feeling from Sluggy. I don't plan to drop it, but that's because I rarely drop anything unless the comic is actively pissing me off, and even then I might keep up with it if the art is good (someone mentioned Zap, right?).

It's probably because I'm always on the lookout for ways to procrastinate...
M_Northstar
Grace_chibi_reading
461 posts
Cthulhu-Maccabi wrote:
I can't say I agree on Schlock Mercenary


No? Then you tell me, when was the last time the mercenaries had an actual setback? In the recent updates, their enemies even blew *themselves* up for them.
Zeevico
Default-avatar
59 posts
Woah. Northstar, I was going through your list and I found Eidolic Fringe. God, I remember going on that site and discovering its archives, and seeing it on hiatus like 4 years ago. It broke my heart then and now that I've seen it again it just broke my heart anew. Too many good comics die young, man. Too many.
lostandthedamned
Shokaku0hs
85 posts
M_Northstar wrote:
Cthulhu-Maccabi wrote:
I can't say I agree on Schlock Mercenary


No? Then you tell me, when was the last time the mercenaries had an actual setback? In the recent updates, their enemies even blew *themselves* up for them.


The conclusion to the mission before current. Where they were caputured and mind scrubbed. Now they think Petey betrayed them and are working for the very people who have been chasing them most of the comic. The resolution to this could be huge IMHO.

The problem I find with many comics is that the writers have been working on their storyline as if it where a DC/Marvel style comic book and then releasing the material as if it where a newspaper comic. I have found many of the storyline much better on rereading the archives than first hand day by day.
The only person who has managed to maintain the balance between storyline and strip per day format properly is Bill Holbrook. Kevin & Kell was not only one of the first but still one of the best webcomics simply because he learned his art as a newspaper strip author not as a wannabe comic book artist.
Real comic books generally only get away with 5 year plus runs by changing writer every so often so that ideas do not get stale.
Hats off to authors like irony-chan (of Get Medieval) for finishing a story and starting something new. Other examples being Shannon Garrity and more recently Garth Graham (formerly of Comedity now doing Finder's Keepers.
Cthulhu-Maccabi
David
167 posts
M_Northstar wrote:
Cthulhu-Maccabi wrote:
I can't say I agree on Schlock Mercenary


No? Then you tell me, when was the last time the mercenaries had an actual setback? In the recent updates, their enemies even blew *themselves* up for them.


What lost said. Plus, they're currently being sued by 3 or 4 different groups, have a growing problem with their PR, and are possibly dealing with a militant group that could blow the settlement they're supposed to be delivering food to apart.

So, yes, they aren't facing a serious military challenge at the moment (and, in fact, they frequently aren't), but that doesn't mean things can't go wrong.
M_Northstar
Grace_chibi_reading
461 posts
Zeevico wrote:
Woah. Northstar, I was going through your list and I found Eidolic Fringe. God, I remember going on that site and discovering its archives, and seeing it on hiatus like 4 years ago. It broke my heart then and now that I've seen it again it just broke my heart anew. Too many good comics die young, man. Too many.


*Growl* Hands off the saltshaker, boy! That wound's still too fresh. >:-(
M_Northstar
Grace_chibi_reading
461 posts
lostandthedamned wrote:
M_Northstar wrote:
Cthulhu-Maccabi wrote:
I can't say I agree on Schlock Mercenary


No? Then you tell me, when was the last time the mercenaries had an actual setback? In the recent updates, their enemies even blew *themselves* up for them.


The conclusion to the mission before current. Where they were caputured and mind scrubbed. Now they think Petey betrayed them and are working for the very people who have been chasing them most of the comic. The resolution to this could be huge IMHO.


In fact, that story is exactly the straw that broke the back of the camel: in case you didn't notice, the entire arc was just a plot device to get the UNS off their backs and the overly powerful fleetmind out of their lives. And they got well paid, repaired their ship for free, and are free to roam the galaxy as they will again. As for working for the people who were chasing them, I seriously doubt they'd mind that, even if they could rememeber.

Cthulhu-Maccabi wrote:
What lost said. Plus, they're currently being sued by 3 or 4 different groups, have a growing problem with their PR, and are possibly dealing with a militant group that could blow the settlement they're supposed to be delivering food to apart.

So, yes, they aren't facing a serious military challenge at the moment (and, in fact, they frequently aren't), but that doesn't mean things can't go wrong.


Granted, but that's not the same thing as having a setback, not like when they lost Petey the ship, or when the UNS took Haban. We all know very well that the mercenaries will sort out the problems on Credomar without too much difficulty. It just doesn't have the gritty feel of the days when anyone, no matter how important, could die in battle and stay dead. In fact it's been like that ever since Kevin went back in time and stopped Tagon from dying.
Cthulhu-Maccabi
David
167 posts
True, it might not be as gritty as it once was (though honestly, I don't think it's really been gritty since the introduction of the fleetmind and all of the grand overarching conflicts going on), but there's still danger. The demolitionist died a couple arcs ago, and Kevyn almost died several times.
meeowth
Teto
510 posts
I actually don't read most of the comics on my list. I know that a comic I read has updated when my updated comics number is above 20(and that number goes up whenever one of the rare updaters updates). But I swear I'll get around to reading the other 90% one day.

You could say that maintaining the database makes you sloth with regards to anything but your very favorite comics.

And I've been on summer/xmas break for over a month (Sorry, M_Northstar!).
Daszard
Default-avatar
48 posts
I was reading all the comics on my list, then I took a couple vacations back in august and lost track of most of them. I click a few for the "there's no way that's updated" (and unfortunately more-often-than-not true statement) and then follow about 3 or four of them. I know when somethings updated when the number updated goes over 70. I will get back on track with all of them someday it just takes, well, A Lot of time.
M_Northstar
Grace_chibi_reading
461 posts
Dude, I don't know how you guys can live like that. To me, that green light is like a red cloth to a bull. I fell behind my reading list a couple of times, but each time I just sat down for hours and days till I had caught up. If I'm not following a comic, it doesn't stay on my list.
Cthulhu-Maccabi
David
167 posts
Yeah, I've gotta say I'm with Northstar on this one, though it probably has a lot to do with the fact that I'm a huge procrastinator and most of my actual work involved sitting at my computer.
kilthmal
Smallpicicon
44 posts
Sometimes I ignore a comic updating, but I usually do that by opening the tab and immediately closing it again. If I find I've done that for a few updates in a row I'll try catching up and if I'm not enjoying that I'll remove the comic.
lostandthedamned
Shokaku0hs
85 posts
Just for comparison, I tried my normal daily reading without CN the other day and found that it saves me about an hour over checking for updates manually. I have to read anything that updates, not to read it means I might not know how the story continues.

Reading this made me remember that it's almost exactly 6 years since I started reading webcomics.
I found a link to PvP on a Diablo 2 website while bored surfing the net the day I came back for Christmas in my second year of university. I then spent most of the rest of the holiday devouring the archives of anything I could find.
Anyone else remember their first Webcomic?
Daszard
Default-avatar
48 posts
when you gone for the better part of 3 weeks, starting a new job and can't think of any comics that you can just remove (with out catching up first) - you let the light linger. Oh and there's the WoW, soul sucking time destroying WoW.

Some friends in high school pointed out Angst Technology to me one day that was my first web comic. Angst tech featured other comics occasionally which is how I found most of my comics before comic nation. When comic nation had the newly added comics at the top of the page I found a lot that way. Now it's mostly guest comics and links. I found a lot through crossover's at one point but those don't seem as popular anymore.
Cthulhu-Maccabi
David
167 posts
Heh, I believe the first webcomic I encountered was Penny Arcade, back in... 2003? Something like that.

All I really have to say is that webcomics (Penny Arcade included) have gotten a hell of lot better since then.
meeowth
Teto
510 posts
The first webcomic I read was probably Slow Wave (the one that makes comics out of visitors dreams). I haven't read it in years. It kinda ballooned immediatly from there to include all the oldest comics on my list.
2 


Forums >> Web-Comics >> Doing your ComicNation laundry


Insert link to comic